@blumenkraft there was another NYT editor James Bennet that resigned about a month back, after much backlash over an op-Ed he printed. This seems to be unrelated, as far as I know.
@33MHz no it's me who stumbled upon the term. ever since i'm interested in US politics, i do that. a huge part of politics just isn't happening in the US mainstream. as said in the video, when have you seen a lefty on cable TV?
@blumenkraft traditional view here is a left and a right, and the left is well-represented. We have self-described socialists in mainstream media regularly. Communism, yes, that's not palatable.
@33MHz well, from my European view of things, this is just not the case. you have the polotical landscape of moderate right-wing to white nationalist represented. and that's just a sad fact.
@blumenkraft To make differing claims on arbitrary terms is weird. His overview of whom has been canceled in the last 50 years is very thin. This is shock jock language, bra!
@blumenkraft left-center-right are arbitrary. you say left is farther out of sight than I do. It doesn't matter, except that Bari is on Doel's "right". She seems to acknowledge that anyway.
@33MHz actually, it's not arbitrary. :) the political landscape is well defined. not as strict as your programming code, but yeah, it's not that arbitrary.
@33MHz illogical straight line? i don't follow. :) example: person A thinks everyone should have healthcare. they are on the left. person B thinks only white people should have healthcare. they are on the right. what is the illogical straight line here?
@blumenkraft It's not a line, it's a cloud. What if my views aren't represented? There's no reason left and right are in opposite directions. They're just separate economic groups, it just benefits themselves to polarize, so they tend to.
@blumenkraft it's ridiculous that what you call "right" is defined in extreme by white supremacy. That seems completely exclusive to your ethno-centricity.
@blumenkraft I would normally expect white supremacists to be politically-right, but I don't consider white supremacists the clear far-right. White supremacy itself is just an extremist racist view, and isn't inherent to a political view.
@blumenkraft Like marrying multiple wives or inter-species relationships, whatever you want, there are extreme views, but white supremacy doesn't seem to be the conclusion of a conservative concept.
@blumenkraft if you're putting everyone on a straight line, you have to define what the line is relative to. Extremism of their most extreme view on something (distance) and fiscal policy? Or what?
@blumenkraft it seems like this would be more obvious to you, because of multi-party system. A group will say "we're left of X on Y issue", right? So they have a straight line for every issue. You can't put them on a straight line overall.
@blumenkraft there are just only two well-funded parties, which tends to be what people really mean when they talk about it, not that the other dimensional views aren't there.
@blumenkraft got about half way through, I’ll finish it when it’s baby nap time. Hard for me to take him seriously after his Noam Chomsky bit, Noam was in the NYT as recently as last week. 🤷♀️
@Wife he is not happening on cable news. but Tucker Carlson is! he's a white nationalist. and this is one of the biggest cable TV show there. i think that tells you something about how the political landscape is skewed to the right.
@Wife I listened to someone read her letter today. Ultimately NYT has made a decision how to run and they will be too blind to understand her. But it was very interesting to me.
@mandy I was talking with friends about how little urbanites (and maybe especially on the coasts) understand rural and middle Americans. It felt related.
@mandy especially the part of her letter about being hired because of the NYT being so blindsided by Trump’s win. I never liked him, but realized his momentum and potential long before Election Day. I remember being surprised that people were surprised
@Wife you and I are thinking alike. Some of the coastal urbanites despise us middle people more than they are even aware of themselves. It has been my growing suspicion for years.